Patri's Politics

My blogging here has been fairly light, as I'm busy with The Seasteading Institute, but I'll try to make up for it w/ two pointers to dense material.

First, if you are sympathetic to my political views (democracy sucks, libertarianism would be great but conventional methods for achieving it are futile and it appears to be unstable, so let's find some workable, stable ways of getting it, goddamnit), and you don't read Unqualified Reservations, you are missing out. I somehow just started reading it a couple weeks ago, and it is awesome. Not that I agree with all of it, of course, but there are so few of us in the "libertarianism is great but impossible so let's realistically figure make it happen" camp, to find someone intelligent and erudite blogging about it is wonderful. See, for example, Why I am not a libertarian.

Second, as my political views are fairly unique and not described by any simple phrase (ancap frontierism? pragmatic polycentrism?), I finally sat down and tried to put them all in one place. The result is still a bit of a mess, and doesn't include all the key points, but it's a start. If you are one of my companions in the vague diffuse area of consequentalist pragmatic libertarianism, I hope it will be of interest. If you are of some other flavor of libertarianism, perhaps it will help move you in our direction :).

If you have a good name for this brand of politics, or know of blogs or posts or books that fit into it other than those listed, please suggest them in the comments. I think I posted it here before, but if you haven't seen Arnold Kling's Competitive Government vs. Democratic Government (PDF), it is an excellent piece along these lines.

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Troofer, wow.

I read the UR post. When the word troofer was used, I had to choke back my disgust. Regardless of ones opinions of the events of that day, sloganeering is lame.

Moldbug has his moments, but as with most theories about how to free the people, his requires a complete retooling of human thought with regards to government. It would require changing the fundamental way people see and interact with government, he informs us of this hurdle:

The disadvantage of neocameralism is that it is completely alien to American voters, that it has no connection at all to any American value system, that no one has even heard of it at all, that it represents a complete rejection of the sacred American principle of democracy, and that it could be described, not utterly without grain of truth, as "corporate fascism" or some such similar epithet.

He should probably get around to empirically proving his theory regarding formalist neocameralism, I would love to read another moralist logorrheic screed*.


To me Patri, you seem to be an ANCAP. I have read a good number of things you have written and it appears to me that the real difference you have with most other pro-liberty extremists is not political. Simply a divergence of tactics and not grand strategy.

As a matter of fact, I really like the seasteading idea, and I fail to see how it is incompatible in any way with Agorism. As strange as it may sound, I see what you are doing as yet another way to advance an Agorist agenda.

*Yes, I stole that delicious tid-bit.

Back when that libertarian taxonomy was posted...

...I concluded that I didn't fit any of them, and some of them were very far from my views.

I think "competitive govts" or "polycentrism" of the type described by DDF, you (seasteading), crypto-anarchists, Randy Barnett, Neal Stephenson, and the anti-federalists are where I fall in line. There's an opportunity to engage in scientific research into the nature of govts and ways of living that most of the categories fail to take into account. The people in those categories are dogmatic and have a my-way-or-the-highway attitude. I prefer experimentation and fallibilism.

Have you experienced rape or

Have you experienced rape or are you too dogmatic ? Given enough meta levels about anything you believe in morality, you'll find a dogma. Why do you defend experimentation... shouldn't we strike a balance between free experimentation and central planning by a dictator ? Between scientific investigation and religious faith ? Are you dogmatic ?


Turns out I'm a "Liberty" Libertarian. The tautology indicates etymological purity, i.e., I'm a better libertarian than you.


I think you and Mencius have at least one disagreement. He seems to thing the big problem with governments is their internal structure, but doesn't recognize any problems with the structure of the market for governments. See, e.g., one of my old posts.