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"Conservative" candidate Nicolas Sarkozy has won the French presidency and seems America-friendly:

Washington can "count on our friendship," Sarkozy told hundreds of cheering supporters, although he added that "friendship means accepting that friends can have different opinions."

U.S. President George W. Bush swiftly phoned the president-elect to offer congratulations.

"The United States and France are historic allies and partners. President Bush looks forward to working with president-elect Sarkozy as we continue our strong alliance," said Gordon Johndroe, spokesman for the White House National Security Council.

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Doesn't seem like good news for anyone if sarkozy and bush are of the same ilk.

Unfortunately Sarkozy is a

Unfortunately Sarkozy is a statist, although he claims to be a "libéral" (which means in French classical liberal, not liberal). The opponent, Royal, was by far worse than he is, but I won't open the Champagne yet. He is like a neocon with the French marxist-twist.

We take what we can get

Chances were about nil that France would elect a non-statist. Anyway, the big news from France that I personally have been shocked and troubled by was the Muslim riots that were apparently followed up for the next year by a daily burning of an average of 112 cars. The riots started on October 27 2005, and one year later, on October 21 2006 the Times reported:

The figures are stark. An average of 112 cars a day have been torched across France so far this year and there have been 15 attacks a day on police and emergency services. Nearly 3,000 police officers have been injured in clashes this year. Officers have been badly injured in four ambushes in the Paris outskirts since September. Some police talk of open war with youths who are bent on more than vandalism.

“The thing that has changed over the past month is that they now want to kill us,” said Bruno Beschizza, the leader of Synergie, a union to which 40 per cent of officers belong. Action Police, a hardline union, said: “We are in a civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists.”

Even more troubling are the related phenomenon of the no-go areas. The Times article mentions these without explaining them (presumably because their readers are assumed to already know all about them):

Nicolas Sarkozy, the Interior Minister who hopes to win the presidency next May, has once again taken the offensive, staging raids on the no-go areas and promising no mercy for the thugs who reign there.

Notice the mention of Sarkozy. I'm getting to that. But right now what strikes my attention is the mention of these "no-go areas". When I Google it I get the following description:

An increasingly commonly thing in European cities is the no-go zone. These are places where the police, medical rescue crews, and other government agents will not venture into. The areas are viewed as just too violent and/or risky to enforce rules. Following the rules of ungoverned spaces, anarchy does not reign for long. A group will enforce their own rule set and the no-go zone will become a microstate.

In France no-go zones are referred to as Zones Urbaines Sensibles (Sensitive Urban Zones). Approximately 12 percent of all French in France live in a Sensitive Urban Zone (5 million out of approximately 60 million French)! Some of the zones are governed under Islamic Sharia law. From these no-go zones Islamic militants are waging guerrilla warfare against French police.

That is from a blog, with the usual warnings on credibility; however, the page it cites is in French, so I am quoting the blog.

Anyway, I think that the reason for the high turnout and the support for Sarkozy is that the French are probably about a thousand times as alarmed by this as I am, since they have to live with it.

(I've made this a blog entry)

This blog looks like

This blog looks like anti-islamic propaganda (notice the name). I don't really like Islam nor any religion for that matter but this is ridiculous. Shariah? Come on, if Shariah were applied you would actually be extremely safe and there'd be not theft, which is far from the truth. These "no go" zones are probably slightly worse than the bad parts of Detroit but that's about it.

The stance in that blog is that of the nationalist wing in France capitalizing on "social unrest" in these zones. This has nothing to do with Islam and everything to do with the endemic socialist ideology (why should they respect property when the government doesn't and say you shouldn't). This ideology rejects individual free will and thus systematically suppresses any sense of responsibility, people go to trial 70 times without being sentenced, to give them a chance...

Blog is only a background source

The main part of the information comes from the Times. The Times mentioned the no-go zones, and that blog was the top explanatory Google hit (it was the second Google hit but the one above it did not provide an explanation).

If you go down the list you'll find that a lot of sites mentioning the "no-go area" tend to be opinionated. Here's another opinionated website:

In Le Figaro daily dated Feb 1, 2002, Lucienne Bui Trong, a criminologist working for the French government's Renseignements Generaux (General Intelligence — a mix of FBI and secret service), complains that the survey system she had created for accurately denumbering the Muslim no-go zones was dismantled by the government. She wrote: 'From 106 hot points in 1991, we went to 818 sensitive areas in 1999. That's for the whole country. These data were not politically correct.' Since she comes from a Vietnamese background, Ms. Bui Trong cannot be suspected of racism, of course, otherwise she wouldn't have been able to start this survey in the first place.

The term she uses, 'sensitive area,' is the PC euphemism for these places where anything representing a Western institution (post office truck, firemen, even mail order delivery firms, and of course cops) is routinely ambushed with Molotov cocktails, and where war weapons imported from the Muslim part of Yugoslavia are routinely found.

The number 818 is from 2002. I'd go out on a limb and venture that it hasn't decreased in two years.

Note the French govt's response to these unpleasant statistics — they stopped collecting the statistics!


How is the blog title anti-Islamic? My Muslim extended family members would be surprised to hear I am anti-Islam.

Anyways, my study into no-go areas is a study on extreme Islamist (political Islam as exposed by al Qaeda) views expanding in Europe. Before you claim Sharia is a good thing maybe you should study the honor killings of females and other civil rights violations.

A copy of my powerpoint presented at an academic conference can be found here

Catholicgauze, how...

How did you know that your blog entry was being discussed?

Behold, the magic of the

Behold, the magic of the "http referer" field.

So how exactly is the referer being used?

The only time I've ever seen the referer was when I was browsing my web logs. Is there some common automated system nowadays for notification?

Well, blogpost does, check

Well, blogpost does, check the "link to this article" part. Really it's fairly common, hence the wisdom of using dereferers or text urls.

I didn't say it was

I didn't say it was anti-islamic, I said it looked like. This is a very superficial opinion on my part I did not dig into it further and relied on the correlation of your stance with the stance of other people I know to be anti-islamic. If my heuristic failed, I apologize. Now you are guilty of the same approximation, as I didn't say sharia was a good thing, I merely pointed out that sharia forbids theft yet I wouldn't leave my bicycle unwatched and unchained over there.